Under 13 rule

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  • Official comment
    D

    As many of the comments mention, this rule is legal law, COPPA, and not something Discord specific\.

  • Uragani

    This is likely to comply with COPPA, which was passed by congress in 1998. If they're handling users under 13, they have to do stuff like specially single them out, and allow parents access to their files and posts, and the ability to delete them. They also have to delete information posted therein the moment it's out of use. That includes:

    • First and last name;
    • A home or other physical address including street name and name of a city or town;
    • Online contact information;
    • A screen or user name that functions as online contact information;
    • A telephone number;
    • A social security number;
    • A persistent identifier that can be used to recognize a user over time and across different websites or online services;
    • A photograph, video, or audio file, where such file contains a child’s image or voice;
    • Geolocation information sufficient to identify street name and name of a city or town; or
    • Information concerning the child or the parents of that child that the operator collects online from the child and combines with an identifier described above.

    Which makes Discord as a service much harder to maintain, or even begin to comply with the law on. Especially now that they sell games, which forces them to keep information that isn't allowed under COPPA to maintain a database of users, and breaks the one-time contact law without parents consent and permissions, directly obtained by e-mailing them. It's a lot of hassle, there's a lot of rules, and it makes Discord nearly unusable to under 13 year olds. 

    But this is just a guess, since that's why most sites do it.

    Edit: To be clear, Discord servers are in the USA, and therefore have to comply with USA laws. It doesn't matter where you are personally accessing them from. Also if you read the information they have to wipe, it includes usernames. Can you imagine a special Discord for under 13-year-olds with no username? No way to identify them? No. Because the service operates on people sharing usernames to maintain a connection. Discord's main service, it's very existence, cannot operate without a username to share with other people. You can't have an under 13 Discord without being constantly anonymous, with no friend's list or chatrooms that maintain your posts with a username/icon with every message you send being recorded for your parents to read and delete. That undermines the entire point of Discord. Sorry kids.

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  • Fooking Laser Sights

    I semi agree, But still, They could make settings for the account, U13 accounts and 13+ accounts, And certain features are disabled, Like the above, for U13 accounts.

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  • kyoko

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    Edit: To be clear, Discord servers are in the USA, and therefore have to comply with USA laws. It doesn't matter where you are personally accessing them from. Also if you read the information they have to wipe, it includes usernames. Can you imagine a special Discord for under 13-year-olds with no username? No way to identify them? No. Because the service operates on people sharing usernames to maintain a connection. Discord's main service, it's very existence, cannot operate without a username to share with other people. You can't have an under 13 Discord without being constantly anonymous, with no friend's list or chatrooms that maintain your posts with a username/icon with every message you send being recorded for your parents to read and delete. That undermines the entire point of Discord. Sorry kids.

     
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  • Aci

    YES, thanks!
    This rule is so pointless, finally someone that gets it

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  • Nolram

    For people in most European countries it is also just blocking and not usefull because COPPA is not a thing here.

    The Account of a friend of mine was even deactivated because auf this in the EU useless rule.

    (I hope that was right grammar)

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  • Nitegear

    As far as i know not in Europe.

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  • D

    It is due to legal law, in particular COPPA,  that we are not allowed to have users under the age of 13 on our platform.

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  • kyoko

    You can't just have a setting, Read the COPPA law

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  • Aci

    Nope, I didn't.

    All they'd have to do is not collect information on accounts from people which are under 13 (add a setting or sth) and it'd be good.

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  • kyoko

    Also in europe. Did you sleep when GDPR became a thing?

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  • 0 iLLuSioN 0

    Does the COPPA apply in canada?

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  • kyoko

    It's not useless, it's illegal to obtain information about toddlers under 13. they can make a discord version that doesn't accept any information but it would be hard to identify if the person is actually under or over 13

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