Add a way for Nitro Classic subscribers to boost a server
As it is right now, only users who have Discord Nitro (the $10 a month one with games) get any sort of way to boost a server. I think it'd be neat to give Nitro Classic subscribers the ability to boost, too. Giving boosts to Classic subscribers takes away some of the value for the regular Discord Nitro subscription though, so maybe something like this could be implemented: Nitro Classic gives one server boost per month, and the regular Discord Nitro gives two per month.
The number of boosts needed for each tier would definitely need to be adjusted to accommodate something like this, though, since there would be more boosts out there in the wild. In effect though, this would give Classic subscribers 1/2 the boost capability of Nitro subscribers. It'd also be a neat advantage to the regular Nitro subscription since you'd have the capability to boost two servers, even if the boosts contribute a little less to the server levels than they did before.
[EDIT 6/4/19]
With the push of Nitro Boosts to all servers, it's been announced (in a HypeSquad email) that the plan is eventually for users to be able to pay $4.99 a month for an individual server boost. I'm glad that there will be some way for people who are part of Nitro Classic to boost a server, but I'm overall disappointed in the way that it's been carried out.
Pricing a single server boost the same as Nitro Classic itself feels like a punch in the face, considering that buying them both would be the same as buying Nitro Games to start with. That's compounded when you realize that that's $5 for a boost to a single server- if you have multiple communities you'd like to support, you've gotta fork over another $5 every month.
The way this is modeled is not appealing to the everyday user of Discord. Why would you pay $5 a month (a whopping $60 a year) to contribute 1/50 of the way to some flashy rewards for a single server? When server boosting was announced, it seemed like it was a thank-you from Discord to the people who are already paying, but now it just feels like a cashgrab. That's not saying money shouldn't be made, Discord is a business obviously, but server boosts just rip off users in the current system. $1 or $2 a month is reasonable, $5 is not.
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Maybe give classic one boost while normal nitro has 2.
it would work with a different suggestion I have seen that wanted a second boost.2 -
All of the boosts benefit servers and chatting. So why lock it behind the one meant for games? People pay $4.99/month to support discord, it has no benefit beyond some animated emojis and using them in any server that allows them. Which is cool, but not worth $4.99. I pay it to support discord. Let the people who are paying for classic because they want to support you support their servers also. Because they are using it for voice communication and not as a game launcher. They might have no interest in the games you have available, so why force people to get services they do not want/need just to make their server community better?
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In your own article describing the differences between Nitro and Nitro Classic, you describe them as follows: "Nitro Classic offers perks for chat, Nitro includes those same chat perks, with the addition of GAMES". Simple, right? That's what I thought too...
Do you see our point when we feel like we were misled? There was no indication, hint or mention whatsoever that a new feature was coming and made exclusive to the highest tier of Nitro. In fact, I would consider "Server Boosting" a perk for chat, rather than GAMES
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Or give the server owner the opportunity to boost the server without Nitro, I don't need all these games, but I would pay $10-15 to get a Tier 3 server for me and my friends. We are trying to replace teamspeak, unfortunately the connection is not always satisfying.
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In your own article describing the differences between Nitro and Nitro Classic, you describe them as follows: "Nitro Classic offers perks for chat, Nitro includes those same chat perks, with the addition of GAMES". Simple, right? That's what I thought too... And to this day you still advertise it as such.
Do you see our point when Nitro Classic users feel like we were misled? There was no indication, hint or mention whatsoever that a new feature was coming and made exclusive to the highest tier of Nitro. In fact, I would consider "Server Boosting" a perk for chat, rather than GAMES
I support the suggested solution here to give Nitro Classic users 1 boost/month and regular Nitro 2 boosts instead. There are a lot of servers out there, that 1 boost doesn't seem like enough to begin with!
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i whole heartedly agree with this. but i also believe that it could be a great way for more people to get nitro because if you have classic nitro as a option for boosting then more and more people will get nitro subsequently leading to more money and more profit
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I agree.
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Premium Nitro was supposed to be everything in regular Nitro, plus games, the addition of server boosting should be no different. I want to support my server, but damn, $10's a month? I'm not saying it's an outrageous price, but I don't need the games. I want to support my server with the addition to the chat perks, but not for 10 bucks a month.
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I second that.
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Definitely +1 to everyone else pointing out that classic was meant to provide just the chat features and separate the extra cost of the games from the traditional subscription for more functionality. Though I currently get a boost as a grandfathered nitro classic subscriber, it's definitely my feeling that the features provided by even the high tiers of boost (like 100M upload for everyone) are much more in-line with the expectations of what classic supporters are paying for.
Everyone's still supporting Discord for the chat features, and the net $250/mo from a level 10 server of classic subscribers should more than offset the extra bandwidth their server would be using from better quality voice or big uploads. If bandwidth were to become a problem (like very large servers using 1TB+ a month through tons of 100M uploads and hours of HQ voice) then maybe adding a sane bandwidth cap before reverting to "classic" limits (or at least a lower tier) until the next month with extra allowance for higher (above 10) levels. If bandwidth cost is the motivation here and a level 10 of classic subscribers isn't cutting it for that level of service, the solution should be to adjust the points granted to member types and/or point thresholds so that it works out in a way that's favorable for everyone. Discord doesn't go broke on bandwidth costs, classic users get the perks and aren't left to pay double or perish (should they want to boost a server they main), and premium users would still get that little extra something for their additional contribution per month.
Main TL;DR argument: Please stay in the spirit of how you originally designed and portrayed nitro premium/classic and grant classic users the ability to boost too. If bandwidth/money is the concern, rework your system rather than crap on old supporters when their grandfather ends / new supporters who don't want or can't afford or justify the games.
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Yes. Nitro Premium is supposed to be everything in regular Nitro and then games. Why is server boosting any different? I would definitely buy Nitro if server boosting was included.
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People in my severs are getting shoutouts, perks, etc when they get nitro boosted but here I am I don't want real nitro as I DON'T WANT THE GAMES but if I get Classic, then I won't be able to boost. Like kimbjo said, the full nitro is for GAMES, and now Classic members are getting kicked to the curb. How bout $1/month or less add on for classic for boosting, and full nitro still has it included.
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I completely agree. boosting should be for all nitro users. i can understand the extra money for the game pass but not the server upgrade
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To be fair, they could've just made 2 Nitro classic boosts worth a full Nitro boost.
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Yeah, it's honestly unfair. Paying double the cost for all those perks that I wouldn't even use is useless just to be able to boost.
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100% agree
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I completely agree with this I wouldn't even mind paying like an extra dollar a month or $62 a year just to be able to boost my favourite servers.
I'm irrationally upset about this...
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I completely agree with this I wouldn't even mind paying like an extra dollar a month or $62 a year just to be able to boost my favourite servers.
I'm irrationally upset about this...
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I completely agree with this I wouldn't even mind paying like an extra dollar a month or $62 a year just to be able to boost my favourite servers.
My Math: ( 5 * 12 ) - 10 = 50, so ( 6 * 12 ) - 10 = 62.
I'm irrationally upset about this... (Yes I posted this in other places, but this seems to be the biggest and most active one.)
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I see no need to buy the games if you don't play them especially for mobile and mac users who cant use the games at all. and classic nitro is just chat perks right? isn't the boost to help the server get chat perks? I think it would be better for classic to have rather than the new one.
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Yeah, i liked the suggestion, please do this Discord 1 -
I came here to make this exact suggestion.
I can't see the majority of people using the 9.99 version, I would assume the vast majority use the 4.99 version for the chat features, I could be wrong of course but that's what I assume at least, so it would make more sense for the classic version to also be able to boost. I would like to do this for my server for the guild I run but I can't because no one uses the 9.99 version and we have a member total of 78 members (and growing), more people use the classic version. : (
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I totally support this. I currently have the Grandfather subscription (paying for Classic but getting all the perks) which wears off in 2020, but I don't even use the games. Every now and then I might play a few rounds of ZombsRoyale but that's it. Server Boosting is a really neat thing but paying for something that I'll almost never use is a bit baloney. I think you guys should have tinkered around a bit more during the beta and came up with some ways Classic users can join in on the fun too, perhaps Nitro users can vote on 3–5 guilds while Classic is limited to only one.
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I honestly thought it was a one time thing, I don't like subscriptions. Not even nitro itself. I'd pay once for a service that gives me something permanent but what's the point to pay 9.99 for a discord role? And you don't even get anything because it has to be gifter.
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Agreed!
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Hey - yeah. I would also like some Boost related feature for Nitro Classic. I am not interested in the games pass upgrade and frankly can't really afford it but would love my current subscription (and that of my server members) to unlock more emoji space/banners/bandwidth.
Also. I get this is really cool for larger servers that are constantly looking to expand but I run a very small server of close friends and it would be great if Boost or something similar could work for us. We love Discord as a service and many of us are Nitro Classic members because we want the platform to thrive.As an aside; we also have - so many other games libraries and library subscriptions that Nitro+ isn't really a draw for most of us. It's cool you have this as a service but I think there's a large number of Discord users for who it's redundant - and Boost doesn't add enough value for me to want to upgrade.
Those are my two cents worth anyway. Take care.
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Yeaah I'm pretty peeved that classic users don't get some boosting ability since we * are * paying for something still. Also, my nitro classic doesn't really get me that much and I can't afford more than $5/month so I'm probably just going to end up cancelling my nitro subscription unless classic users get more features that I care about.
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I was very disappointed to find out server boosts weren't included with Classic.
I use Discord for social features and pay for Classic to unlock all the chat perks. I don't use Discord to play games, so I'm not going to pay to support that side of the app. Why is server boosting exclusive to the games part of Discord and not chat perks? WTF?
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I made another Forum Post with this exact text, but with how common the topic is, it might not get approved. So I'm going to put it as a comment here too.
This is to compile what I have seen said about this topic.
How much are Discord Games worth to you? If you're a mobile user, a mac user or a linux user, chances are, they aren't worth a dime. The same goes if you're a windows user who is a console gamer; What is the point of having games if your computer isn't fit to play them?
These people are the type who buy Discord Nitro Classic, to get access to the chat features; The only features of Discord they can use. And many of them agree that the cost isn't completely worth it for what they get. When Server Boosting was announced, people were happy, then disappointed as it was limited to the $9.99 tier; The games tier. Oh, but don't worry, Classic users! I've read that, for a measly sum of $4.99 a month, you too can boost a server!
But wait. Let's do some maths on that. $4.99 for a Nitro Classic subscription, and $4.99 to boost a server, equals $9.98. $0.01 less than the $9.99 tier, which also gets free access to a library of games. At that point, you may as well subscribe to the $9.99 tier.
So it appears Discord agrees with you, Classic users; They too believe that the games aren't worth a dime, they're worth exactly a cent.
Truly a kick to the teeth for Classic users.
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So now that I have that out of my system, some constructiveness.
Nitro Classic, as pretty much everyone has been saying, should get access to Server Boosting. And no, the "Buy a boost for $4.99 a month" isn't a good option; It turned what was a kick to the teeth into a full-on beat-down with a brick.
A common argument I have seen regarding this is that Server Boosting gives CHAT benefits; The benefits that Nitro Classic is advertised for.
Buy allowing server boosts for Classic users, you would actually increase the money coming in, because server boosting isn't going to convince people who didn't want the games to get the $9.99 tier, whether it's because they can't use them, or because they don't want yet another game launcher. But it WOULD convince people to buy the $4.99 version; I know this, because I'm one of these people, and I have seen many others that agree with this.
These are people who didn't see the benefits of Nitro Classic as "enough" to buy it, but who do want the benefits offered by boosting; Namely, better quality audio so that Discord can take over from Teamspeak as the fore-runner of voice applications for gaming, the GOAL that Discord wants to achieve. And while you are a big platform now, Teamspeak is still the preferred option for "serious gamers" who want quality audio for good communication.
Please listen to your audience, Discord. You've done so well so far, it would be a shame for you to mess it up now. We believed that you understood us, but if the "Buy a server boost for $4.99" situation has shown us anything, it's that now you understand our money more than you understand us.11
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