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(Note I tried posting this but it seemingly disappeared, so If you see a duplicate of this my bad). Probably half the userbase is under 13. Some don’t know it’s not allowed. Most of them say the most vulgar things, they’d probably laugh at NSFW content. The COPPA rule says a child can be under 13, as long as they have parental permission and supervision, with the guardian having full management of the account. Roblox and google have that, you need to submit a parent’s email and the parents can manage their child’s account. Discord should be the same. Discord is popular for children for a lot of the same reason as adults. To keep up on games and their communities, to join different communities, to keep in touch with all their friends, to manage their own server, and discord can even be used for school and work purposes. Some have jokes about being underage and wrongfully disabled. Discord is just as useful to children as adults, a lot of games that use discord are games for those under 13, it’s not fair if these children cannot use discord for their favorite games while adults can, especially if it’s a kid friendly game. I’m not asking for this immediately, nor am I asking this to unban all U13 accounts. Take your time with this, consider it, and think about it carefully. I do not care how long it takes, I simply think it is a better idea for both the users and company. Since children Would be allowed on it, discord would grow in popularity since children can use it safely, inspiring more younger kids to use it, while children who want to use it won’t have to worry about being banned or using it unsupervised. I am asking you that you consider this carefully and slowly, take as long as you want.
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exactly why I said to have it like roblox and google where you have to put in a guardian's email
And they can also implement restrictions like roblox, with children not being allowed to access voice chat unless a parent confirms permission, and inappropriate words, sentences that ask for personal information, and sentences that reveal personal information would be censored
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There are always ways to work around things. Discord is as useful to kids as it is to adults. Don’t focus on the reasons to no do sth, focus on getting around them and the reasons to do it. Kids are smarter than we think. It’s not their fault, it’s the fault of those who terrorize them, we should focus on stopping them. I said consider this carefully and take your time.
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Grown-ups are known to ruin things meant for kids. They claim that “They can’t understand it”. They can understand them perfectly even if it’s not meant for kids. And they don’t need to understand so much of something, they wanna use, play, or watch something, that will lead them to understand it. If something that kids can’t understand is in a popular game, website, etc, that doesn’t mean they can’t enjoy it.
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The reason why most companies say you need to be over 13 is because of the effort it takes to maintain and obtain permission for under 13s. 2 -
So they're just being lazy? If kids don't know how to act on the internet, that's the parents' responsibility, not the government. If parents have to rely on over-restrictive rules to protect their child on the internet, they shouldn't be letting their child on the internet in the first place. If they are making rules about child online protection, why aren't they making rules about child offline protection? The world is a terrible place, and the internet provided a safe communication service for children, with no way of getting physically hurt, until they were blocked from making accounts. If you're anonymous, people can impersonate you, and that's not nice at all, under 13 or not. Children don't have phones, so if they're in an emergency, they can't call 911. Usually only adults/some teens have phones. It's not nice to be treating children like animals. In school, they're always taught to 'do to others what you want to be done to you', but adults are not following that rule. Children are trained to lie to websites about their age, and they have the constant fear of getting their age found out, and getting banned for it. Age isn't a thing you can control. Some children are smarter than most adults, even smarter than Donald Trump, which is a very low bar, but some children go higher. Some teens/adults are immature and act like what most people would think children act like. Children who want to get rid of this rule can't, because """""thEiR nOT OlD a nUF!!!!!""""" and they correct the adults by saying 'they're*' but nobody listens because """""thEiR nOT OlD a nUF!!!!!""""" I say instead of limiting access by legal age, limit access by mental age. There is a difference.
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VS, that’s what I always try to say about the tos. I read your message and that’s what they should do. Children have to like lie that they are 13 to be on apps and sites. But they think complying with coppa can save children, dude. Discord should be for everyone, then kids gotta worry about when someone finds about their age, and they get reported, the kid is mad that they’re account is disabled. For example: Lets say someone reported me and I Hope when I get back home from school on my phone my account is still there but boom I’m mad account disabled. Like you said, the government shouldn’t worry. And discord, let the kids use discord, because your app is way better than any other app. And you didn’t have to do that anyway with coppa. The kid could have just done “Scan direct messages from everyone”. That would be a better way. Plus discord is better than anything. (My personal opinion) but dude, can’t you at least let the kids use discord? What if kids want to share their nice artwork they made? Discord you can share your screenshots and stuff, for example, roblox you can’t. Just do it this way, or like VS said. You have thousands of kids who are mad because they can’t use discord. The parent should worry about the stuff, not the government. Jesus
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Here's the thing: Discord can and will be sued for letting kids under the age of 13 into Discord due to COPPA law.
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here is the thing its not fair that people have to get ban from server just because they're under 13. how come they wont put it as under 12? in my opinion the discord community should of have a rule of saying you should be under 12 but not under 13 like some kids are mature, more mature then teenagers. teenagers are mature but just have a mind of a a 10 year old why would you guys as the discord community have to ban account because of they're age? i get that you don't want any toxic behavior but its not the kids fault its they're parents. the parents should of been a better guardian to then its not fair don't blame the kids blame the parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I also think this rule is not right. If kids want to be able to support their favorite game or show some stuff they made. (Like another comment said). They should be able to use discord. Make them put in there age and parents email, like ROBLOX. It only is not safe for them when they get in a bad community with content they shouldn’t see. Lots of servers ARE NOT like that, if anything some look like they are for kids and kid friendly. But if a kid were to get in the server not knowing the rule and someone finds out there age, they get banned and account terminated. It isn’t fair.
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Some kids are more mature than teens and maybe adults.Because children wanted to communicate with their friends playing games or sending a funny picture. Or talking to other people.Just because they are under 13 does not mean they have a IQ under 50 or 30, some people under 13 or even under 8 can be smarter than Donald Trump or maybe even some teenagers.Some 10 year olds are even smarter than me. The children have to worry about their age found out. But their actually just wanted to play games with other people. And if their age got found out, their account got disabled, and every human would 100% be sad about it.And because their children, they probably cry because of it. If children wanted to use discord, just block some features, example: VC, personal infomation, etc. Instead of banning the children just because "tHEiR UNdeR THe AgE oF13", look at the other things, kids nowadays are really smart, and I actually mean it.These kids can actually behave well. Lets just say it. If you know the user is under 13 and you think that hes really stupid so you just report the heck out of him, then you are the one who is stupid. Because you DO NOT even know how smart he is, and how kind they are. Seriously, their just trying to communicate with other people, and play some games. Discord can used for homework, like contacting your online friends to help you with your homework, or maybe some issues with your relatives or anything (just dont say too much personal infomation).
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COPPA. Discord collects information, and COPPA doesn't allow that. See the problem? Yeah.
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COPPA only doesn’t allow it when the information is revealed about the child, such as an email. COPPA does allow it if no info is given about the child, only the parent/guardian. The only info that can be given about the child is the birthday.
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Does anyone know what you're supposed to do when you see someone admit they are under the age of 13? Also, I'm a Co - Owner of a Discord server so I just kind of need to know. Also I DID ban them from my Discord server. Is that all I do? Do I report the person? Any clue?
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If you like the under 13 rule then sure, ban em. If not, then either ban them cause you follow the law or give them grace cause you hate the rule.
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Hello, I’m Lunar. I will tell you that, Apple have confirmed the age rating of Discord is 12+. I’m sorry this might be not useful to all of the users. But if you look at this photo, it will help you in order to understand about this text.
Actually footage was took at Sunday February 23rd.
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Just imply parental consent. It's the only thing that is necessary. Besides, if you imply parental consent, you won't get sued. Ask for parent's email, keep it frozen until the parent pays $.50 as parental consent, and that's enough. What annoys me most, is when you try to perpetuate the image of the internet as the dark, scary place with inappropriate content, pedophiles, scammers and cyber bullying. Because streets can be like that too. So please do the right thing and introduce parental consent.
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Some kids are more mature than teens and maybe adults.Because children wanted to communicate with their friends playing games or sending a funny picture. Or talking to other people.Just because they are under 13 does not mean they have a IQ under 50 or 30, some people under 13 or even under 8 can be smarter than Donald Trump or maybe even some teenagers.Some 10 year olds are even smarter than me. The children have to worry about their age found out. But their actually just wanted to play games with other people. And if their age got found out, their account got disabled, and every human would 100% be sad about it.And because their children, they probably cry because of it. If children wanted to use discord, just block some features, example: VC, personal infomation, etc. Instead of banning the children just because "tHEiR UNdeR THe AgE oF13", look at the other things, kids nowadays are really smart, and I actually mean it.These kids can actually behave well. Lets just say it. If you know the user is under 13 and you think that hes really stupid so you just report the heck out of him, then you are the one who is stupid. Because you DO NOT even know how smart he is, and how kind they are. Seriously, their just trying to communicate with other people, and play some games. Discord can used for homework, like contacting your online friends to help you with your homework, or maybe some issues with your relatives or anything (just dont say too much personal infomation).
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So, you think that someone's homework and desire to be in the Fortnite Discord overrides the law?
This whole chat is filled with underage discord users.
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I have this issue in my Discord server, I have a few underage people and it either makes my server a mess with some of them but other are actually really kind and easy to talk to, they even act more mature than some of my other users who are like 15+. Some times just banning the people who we think were 13+ and were really kind, brought much to the server and then having to ban them because of their age.
Now don't get that confused with me wanting under 13 users in my Discord server, cause most of them are just annoying or don't understand how to act mature enough nor read the rules, then going out of their way to spam or something. It's also not that safe as some young people might not understand what NSFW is and then accept joining a channel within that subject. It also confusing many by putting the age on the Apple store as 12+ but then saying in your terms and service that you need to be 13+. I have many users who are 12 backing up their ban why saying they are on some apple device and then saying the age is 12+, which then confuses my staff who use an android.
If it was me, I would bring the age down to 12+ on all devices, or change the age on Apple if possible to 13+.
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Guys, this is not all about how silly and badly behaved children are. This is all about getting parental consent according to COPPA and GDPR. And there are good reasons to allow children under 13 to sign up, of course with requiring parental consent obtained according to COPPA and GDPR.
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Hikaymansan353. If you are saying silly and badly behaved children are then I think its the parents who didnt raise them well... well you know not every child is like that. if you are saying most of them then probably U.S. has that... mostly in UK kids arent like that and in other countries. also I aint saying they should be allowed to have disc. secondly I dunno how it is in U.S. this means that Parents in U.S. are complete di- and dont care for their children *maybe some* or its just me. Can someone reply to me about it?
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So, I have a friend on Discord not the correct age, but why does it say on the apple store 12+ and not 13+? If this is for 13 ages and up, then why not 12? Look, I am 13, but younger kids can be smarter and kind than you think. They use it for Roblox, Fortnite, etc. They said that COPPA law says that you can be underaged, I am not sure why they would say that, but it is for the best that I won't complain cause I am use to younger people on teen apps. I am not a blamer, I am a supporter, I advise the kids to have PARENTAL supervision. Discord is popular for kids as well, not just teens.
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Honestly I think people under 13 should be allowed to use Discord if they have parental permission and or supervision.
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If Discord is so worried about people under 13 on Discord, why don't they just ask your birthday when you make the account.
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If you have parental consent, im pretty sure you can still use it if its your parents email or something, a lot of people do this on other sites such as art fight. Im not too sure, but so many people just get their parents permission and let them handle things.
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Well, I agree with most of you on this rule.
Why not allow under 13s on Discord? Is it because they might not be mature enough? Might not understand the rules? Well, what the COPPA says is that a person can be underaged if they have parental consent, and if they don’t give any sort of personal information.
Well, what you should do is basically block some features, such as VC, and having an ‘Are you sure you want to send this information?’ Bar (similar to the @everyone/@here one). I am not saying that you should unban all U13 accounts or apply this immediately. It’s just my opinion.
Also, some kids may actually be more smarter than teenagers and sometimes adults. Just because they are U13 doesn’t mean they have a low IQ.
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And also, if the TOS says you have to be 13+, why does the Apple Store say 12+? Maybe you should change the limit to that. I’ve seen some discord groups saying that they will allow people that are becoming 13 in like a month or less.
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As some people said above, some children can be mature and more mature than other 13+. There can't really be a solution to under 13. Since it's against the law. Yes, some children are just "oMG I'M sO lEgIT". Other's can be quite frankly very mature. Again, I don't think there is much of a solution for this.
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You guys frankly aren't understanding. This is the law. THE LAW. Discord can be shut down from a lawsuit due to a "small issue" like this. Seriously, let Discord moderate themselves the way they want.
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Tri is right, if there going to let kids roam around, Discord will probably get shutdown.
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