Make free nitro undemanding. Free is free
Suggestion: Make free nitro actually undemanding. Free is free.
All the tens of times I got tens of free Discord nitro offers, particularly from Xbox/Epic Games and recently from Discord itself. Every time I tried to claim it, it required me to insert my card. The issue is, there are people, like I, who do not have a credit card because they don't meet the legal age requirement in their country, and so aren't able to claim that kind of free nitro. The issue is that this "free" nitro has requirements not everyone can meet.
To demonstrate my point, I put some screenshots below.
Something actually free is something everyone should be able to get, except this is restricted to only a part of users who have right to a credit card. These offers have requirements to be claimed, that creates an unnecessary obstacle for part of the users. Without a doubt, there have been thousands that missed the opportunity to claim something supposed to be free only because they didn't possess a credit card.
I don't believe users should have to be restricted from accessing a free feature. There's no need to require users to use their credit card for something they don't pay for, or anything taxing. It contradicts the point. If this feature is intentional, I don't understand the point.
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Nitro isn't a "free feature" and never was. They are offering u a free month after which they will charge u, so obviously they need ur card. If u can't afford something then u can't, simple as that.
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Nitro isn't a "free feature" and never was. They are offering u a free month after which they will charge u, so obviously they need ur card. If u can't afford something then u can't, simple as that.
P.s. I never said nitro in itself was a free feature, nor did I say it should be. It seems you missed the entire point of my post.
I'm talking about making the kind of nitro that's supposed to be free, to be undemanding. Because there are free nitro offers Discord makes out there.
And not every kind of free nitro they offered charged you after a month either, as you claimed. So I'm not only talking about that occasion. I literally mentioned the other types in the beginning of my paragraph. Xbox and Epic Games as an example. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate literally offered you 3 months of nitro (and that's a fixed time, no charges after, unlike the kind of free nitro you mentioned). And yet for that same kind of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, credit cards were also required. For which there was no need because 1. it is literally labeled free and 2. it didn't charge.
So your point doesn't hold up. Please consider the point of my post. I would appreciate it if the big picture could be addressed.
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Dude every type of subscription requires u to enter ur card info whether they offer free months or not. Name me a subscription that doesn't require u to have a card or other payment method linked to ur account while claiming those "free month" gifts
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Dude every type of subscription requires u to enter ur card info whether they offer free months or not.
Exactly. There's no use for the credit card if there won't be any payment.
There's nothing wrong with paid subscriptions requiring credit cards, that's how it should be.
But, as for free subscriptions requiring credit card? There's no use. Other than it having no use, it is also constraining for those who can't possess a credit card because they don't meet the legal requirement in their country.
So these people couldn't get a free subscription just because they didn't have a credit card. How sensible does that sound?
It is useless to require credit card for the free subscriptions. Hence my suggestion. I don't think there would be anything bad about making it so that that part doesn't require a credit card. Come to think of it, what would there be to lose from that change?
Let's say I purchase that free subscription if I were old enough to have a credit card. Even if I entered my credit card, the acquisition is free, so Discord is not gaining any money from the free purchasing anyways. What does requiring a credit card for something free change? Nothing, other than mostly underaged people (or people who can't get a card) being unable to obtain something for an useless reason. There are more pros to fixing that than there would be cons.
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yeah many people in many countries can't get their card like some other countries, our laws are weird, and that's why we can't get the enjoyment of free nitro xd
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Like on other platforms, they require a credit card for free subscriptions, because you can create many accounts to use the free subscriptions, but as far as I know, you can't create too many credit cards on your name. So it's an insurance in some way that you won't just cycle accounts to use the product freely indefinitely.
In this case, it's probably hard to get a free Nitro subscription offer in the first place.
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"So it's an insurance in some way that you won't just cycle accounts to use the product freely indefinitely."
Sure. All users should be constrained from abusing the free nitro, the system should be kept fairly safe, and it is.
But on the other hand, no users should be constrained from simply accessing the free nitro. Problem is, the situation is the opposite of that. Allow me to elaborate below.
"Like on other platforms, they require a credit card for free subscriptions, because you can create many accounts to use the free subscriptions"*
1 - I would argue Discord could make it IP or additionally HWID (Hardware Identification) based (some platforms/games use that). IP monitoring can be easily circumvented with a VPN, a proxy server or a system of the sort (but Discord also makes server bans IP based despite knowing that's so susceptible, they acknowledge it themselves, so it would be ironic to deliberately refuse to use it for this too).
2 - But as opposed to the VPN, far, far fewer people know how to spoof their HWID, and many would not know or bother putting time into outmaneuvering an additional layer of security.
3 - Even should both be circumvented by some people, there already exists a fixed amount of time all free offers stay up for (so it indeed can't be used indefinitely because there's a real deadline for when it can be claimed).
Like the free Nitro I've been offered says 10 days remain to claim it (it's in the screenshot of the post and multiple offers I've been imparted had deadlines as well).
So let's suppose I could use that for multiple accounts - 1 month for all of them. Taking the brief deadline into account, all the accounts I can access would have nitro, but just for an equal amount of time at about the same time, so using it for multiple accounts (within that deadline) won't make it last any longer or much longer, nor will it increase the number of perks. All accounts would still have just a month's nitro, but they would have nitro at almost the same time. It would be a prolongation that would be to a trivial point, if any - one that's futile. So would it be worth it using all of them as much, despite there being no difference, or would it just be easier for me to use nitro on my main account?
4 - Even should both HWID/IP be circumvented by some people, I'm sure that the recent feature Discord added, where you can easily switch between alternate accounts with a click, proves that they can and do track any other accounts you register on Discord, easily, and they could probably do so in this case without needing the user to opt for it. With that they could identify most con exploiters. I could go on with alternatives.
Alternative approaches that neither needlessly constrain part of the users from accessing something they’re supposed to be able to access (at least in a licit way that's not exploitative) nor demean the security against most potential exploitations, at least.
Either way, I don't think credit cards are the only form of "insurance" in this specific case, nor do I think there's any insurance that's totally surefire anyways, if using that word is even right, just approaches to minimize by-passing of the system, but it doesn't 100% prevent it regardless. And I stand by the point that my proposals above are as much of an "insurance" as what you allege to be one.
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I ain't reading that essay but i completely agree with you
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