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  • Manic_Pixie

    This!! That servers get an official NSFW tag so minors can't acces them anymore; GREAT. Support that 100%.

    But to exclude an entire platform, will make the communities not only less accessible, but also less safe. As owners, admins and moderators can't be accessed if anything need attention. 

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  • This is horrific and it's basically removing human rights too.

    > **all users** on the iOS platform (**including those aged 18+**) will be blocked from joining and accessing NSFW servers. iOS users aged 18+ will still be able to join and access NSFW communities on the desktop and web versions of Discord.

    Seriously, it's gross that Discord would even consider this

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  • ItIsJustZ

    This is BS dude

     

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  • Luke Skywalker (Jedi)

    Discord, you have no right to tell people what servers they can and can't join nor do you get to decide the content of those servers. Stop policing your customers and get back in your place

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  • KoreanNinja

    In a perfect world we can make sure only people who are 18+ are allowed in NSFW servers unfortunately we don’t live in that world. Removing the ability to access theses servers on IOS isn’t a solution to the problem at all. This is a terrible idea and should never be implemented.

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  • Scribb

    I am a Nsfw artist and I use an ipad for my art and to manage my discord this is a terrible idea 

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  • Fdipper

    This is total bullshit

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  • doctor_flatbread

    Where is the proof of this?

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  • MrPhaze

    This is slightly dumb but why exclude an entire platform for one feature when others like this also uses it. Am an iOS user.

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  • DandalfTheWhite

    I couldn’t believe this was real when I saw it originally. It’s fine to keep underage people out of adult servers, but everyone on iOS? That’s so stupid. I can censor the content I don’t want to see myself. Discord has no right to tell me what I can and can’t do on my own phone. Is this a new Apple policy? Are they going to block nsfw stuff in Safari next? Even if it was Discord should stand up for free speech. 

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  • MaJetiGizzle

    If this is true then this is dogshit.

    I’m a grown ass man. If I want to use my phone to access a particular NSFW platform then I shouldn’t be blocked from doing so for a likely ineffective policy that wouldn’t address any problems of underage people trying to access the platform.

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  • Pharahmedic

    When adults get treated like children again because developers are too dense to implement proper age verification. I'm not even on iOS but if we allow things like this to get through it's only a matter of time until other places are affected too.

    How about you stop being lazy and come up with an actual solution?

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  • Vibrant Causality

    This signals to me that you have given up on resolving this issue in any rational way. I know you can do better. I know there is a better way to address this issue, you just haven’t found it yet—but for the love of god, don’t kill your appeal as a platform with this draconian, panicky, blanket-policing. While I know you can do better, I think at the moment you should be ashamed of yourselves. What a way to alienate your userbase.

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  • STrRedWolf

    Discord should implement what Telegram implemented when Apple smacked them for NSFW content:

    On web and desktop clients only and for 18+ old users:  Present a "allow NSFW content on mobile clients" toggle, with the default of "off" (do not allow).  Users must log in and switch this toggle on.

    When turned on, the NSFW content appears in iOS/Android.

    Such a scheme works in Telegram.  Why not Discord?

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  • ZolaKluke

    How dare you alienienate users just because they decided to use a particular device, discord and apple (especially apple) should be ashamed of themselves for making such a rushed decision. I personally have used iPhones for nearly 10 years now and personally since there are NSFW content creators that require discord to post their works, moving to android would be my next best decision if Apple wants to kill it's user base.

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  • Meekki

    I believe we remember Tumblr, right? Kinda? That site that did the whole NSFW purge that killed it for most people?

    That is why there was a mass influx to Twitter and Discord. If you want to cause an exodus from your product, this is the way.

    NSFW material is a driving force of humanity and is tied to a basic primal desire you cannot fully suppress. Feel free to saw your own feet off in the name of an ideal but in the end, you are left with stumps and a mess to clean up.

    This will be a test to see if I ever buy another Apple product. Just this line of thinking makes me lean towards a hard no.

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  • Kendyl20

    I see this as a terrible solution. I assume this is from pressure given by apple but you are your own company and censoring peoples content based off an organizations opinions is the reason why America is messed up and doing things like this could be a gateway to other censorship. At best this would need to be a temporary solution for a long term problem and you need to get all hands on deck to fix this. Its a larger problem than NSFW servers and content, this is a perfect example of the current vacuum of user accountability and spam with the fact that accounts are not tied to anything and people can say what ever they want i.e. hate speech and there are no repercussions. If you are so concerned with NSFW servers and underage people consuming content there tie it to ID then if they want to see it? How about that? At least in the US you can scan an id at the gas station and it will tell them if its real and how old they are. This seems to be rather easy to fix if you really want to hold people accountable with ID or stop punishing the masses for the actions of a few.

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  • FunzoSuruali

    Throwing my voice in to say that I do not support this solution. There are better ways to get around Apples crushing restrictions.

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  • Zeeloid

    Absolutely awful, awful, awful idea. Mobile is honestly all I use. It’s the easiest access. For most individuals. This is completely counter productive for your service. Why am I even paying for nitro if my access is going to be this limited. I’ve loved apple products but if I’m going to be policed/be treated like a child for using them. Guess it’s finally time to jump ship. Very bad idea!

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  • Titus

    So you are telling me that I can't post to others on a server I'm apart of when they arnt at their computers? Most of them use their iphones as primary devices for ease of use. I'm 100% down for NSFW gates on servers but outright banning an entire suite of devices from using a feature you implement is heavy handed. Other apps have figured this out already I have a hard time believing discord can't. I feel a majority of discord users are game related in some way, remember the migration from TeamSpeak to Discord? or Tumblr to Discord for this NSFW reason? Another product will see the newly open space and take once loyal users just as Discord once did. I dont even use Apple for other reasons but just another reason why I'm glad I don't.

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  • suum

    This is a terrible idea, if this goes through I know 100% i'm getting an android to replace the phone i'm currently using, it's bad enough you can't see webms in ios but now this?

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  • wanderoyy

    To the devs: Ya’ll are a bunch of sellouts. Please, go work for a preschool, I think you’ll be better off censoring free speech there, than the internet of all places 🙂.

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  • Momoka

    this is absolutely insane that you'd censor free speech in this way. i sincerely hope you reconsider what you're doing because you have no right to take away entire servers on a platform for anyone

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  • Hekkland

    > I would like to add: Discord isn't to blame. Apple is. Hopefully when we give enough feedback, Discord has leverage for negotiation with Apple.

    This is an entirely incorrect statement. This is 100% the fault of Discord and their lazy implementation of Apple's App Store Review Guidelines. Those guidelines state: "If your app includes user-generated content from a web-based service, it may display incidental mature “NSFW” content, provided that the content is hidden by default and only displayed when the user turns it on via your website."

    That is to say, all Discord has to do is implement a "Do you wish to see NSFW content?" option on the discord website and then it's allowed to show NSFW content on its IOS app. It just has to be hidden by default. But instead Discord is being lazy, and people are blaming Apple. 

    Discord needs to fire whoever horribly misread Apple's guidelines and then fix this mess they've created.

    Here's the guidelines for anybody that wants em, the part I reference is under "User Generated Content":
    https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

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  • Manic_Pixie

    Thanks for explaining. Apparently someone in my server had wrong understanding of this. They are usually very on point about these things. So I didn't fact-check. I changed the comment

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  • The Pegasus Box

    Wow. This blew up. I’ll preface this quote unquote ending to the issue that I was never mad at Discord. Disappointed; god yes, mad? No. Discord has never steered me wrong before, I was confused and frustrated, but mainly because I didn’t know WHY. The ability to ask Why is what separates us from the monkee and asking that drew me to Apple. I typed the original post before I did this. We are Hooman, we get angry. My server got flagged for the NSFW tag, and I was surprised to see some new information. Doing research, I came to the conclusion yes, Discord did rush this update, but I believe the Why lies with Apple.

    Discord has always been for the people: their changes exemplify this. Other companies would take months: discord seemingly took a single day, or less, to alter the terms so iOS users could Opt-In. This isn’t me saying forget what discord did, far from it. Unless Apple has a gun to their head (of which I would not be surprised) then it should be a lesson on the Discord staff to take your time and continue asking the community. By the people, for the people.

    Just my two cents. I’d consider this matter somewhat closed, but I hope in the future Discord can specify what exactly meets their explicit nsfw content filter. I’ve had reports that Vore is not flagged, which I don’t think it should nor needs to be, but Guro is also not, which I do firmly believe is explicit.

    I hope we can see some progress in the future, and with hope, community interaction on this issue.

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  • Debugga

    The most recent public update on the subreddit points to the opt-in toggle allowing users to join, but not access servers on iOS.

    I just wish someone would fess up, and own their "we rushed this" mistake. Was there not a peer-app policy handling review?

    There is zero reason that a user that has verified age and opted in, should not see NSFW servers.

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  • flameroran77

    I don’t agree with the decision to censor nsfw content, but there are some stupid, ignorant claims here I feel like calling out, even two months late.

    Discord does have the right to decide which servers can and can’t be accessed on their service, and how to police them, because those servers are running using their service. That’s why they can take servers down in the first place.

    Implementing “proper” age verification is not easy if you need it to *actually work*.

    I doubt Discord is alienating people because they use a certain device, mostly because there is absolutely nothing in it for them.

    And finally, this is most certainly not “removing human rights.” You don’t have any sort of right to use discord or even the internet as whole.It is a privilege that you are paying people to have access to. Your right to free speech doesn’t extend to posting anything you want on the internet. You’re allowed to feel what you feel, and say what you want to say. But that doesn’t mean a service has to use their resources to allow you to say things on their platform if they don’t want you to.

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