Adding my support to removing the latest UI update as it triggers my PTSD/Panic disorder
Until yesterday just before the Discord UI update, I have a full love for Discord's design, it was simple, robust, easy to use, new features like bigger emojis when separated and being able to finally see a live preview of your message while typing were very welcome updates.
However, with this latest update the client looks way too cluttered. As someone with Medical Trauma PTSD and a Panic Disorder, both of which diagnosed by a therapist, this bothers me immensely, I tend to keep discord on my second monitor and seeing the cluttered mess in my peripheral vision is very anxiety driving and I find myself not using the platform because of this. I moderate and own about 5 servers that range from very active to fairly active. One of which with nearly 1000 members and exchanging 10,000+ messages per day, not being able to actively watch chat is a huge issue, and while I know that this is a single use case, I also know that some people are reporting similar issues, and issues with dyslexia, vision, etc.
Please either revert this UI, or at the least, start approving modded client like BetterDiscord so that we can actually use this program, I've been a Nitro subscriber for the last 2 years, and this update is so bad, I will likely seek out other solutions to this program.
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No offense (though I am sure some will be taken - this being the internet and all), but I see a lot of disorders being mentioned in the complaints about the new interface elements.
I don't know how all those people function day to day on earth tbh.
I can only try to be empathetic, but can not fully understand as I do not have any of those disorders.
A few checkboxes in the appearance settings will hopefully settle this soon.
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So not that I need to respond to you, because all you said was not only extremely offensive and not only that but you had no reason to comment besides to be offensive, but I function fairly normally, with a few changes, I don't go into ultra cluttered or crowded areas, and I do work just fine, I avoid things, like Discord as of this update, because it triggers these responses. Discord however is one of my primary social media platforms for the last 3-4 years, it's why I support through Nitro as of right now, this update not only makes this an avoid platform for me, but it makes the app, for me, very unusable, which is a damned shame because it means I will likely leave the platform if it doesn't change, but that requires needing a majority of my friends to agree to this too, socially I am forced to use this platform, however the changes make this incredibly difficult to use, and it's not like the solution is hard, the old UI was great, and I would likely aid in helping someone or a group in creating a client mod like Better Discord if I knew that Discord would support them.
I would have no problem with this update if there was a way to make it what I prefer. Before this I was still an advocate of modded clients, as not everyone has my same issues. but this update in particular really messes up a major portion of my social life and the community obviously, for the most part, agrees with this sentiment.
Also, I would like to add in that your comment is quite literally the reasoning behind the phrase "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" your comment isn't productive, isn't constructive, isn't helpful, and was very clearly meant to make fun of people with mental illnesses, something that I, and many people I have met through learning about these, do a lot of work to get through.
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I think Discord needs more personal preference settings, since it's obviously something that causes a lot of fuss when it changes.
Discord really is sorely lacking in individual user settings and options so maybe this will be the start of something better for everyone. I know many who use a third party client, wanting more features.
As for your response... With the level of drama and hostility in how you've reacted, it leads me to think that in some cases, perhaps the real issue is in the eyes of the beholder more than with the interface itself.As for the various disabilities being cited... Sometimes I think these are 'weaponized' any time someone doesn't like something. Not in all cases obviously, but clearly some.
Thanks though for helping me spot the problem. Sorry but if you're talking about medications and therapists when discussing user interface issues, a moment should be taken to look in the mirror.
I do sincerely hope that everyone finds a way to cope with this first world problem, as it's obviously got a lot of people triggered, and those who can not find a way, will perhaps seek more therapy or whatever helps them deal with life's challenges.
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Generic Geezer, let's break down what you've said so far.
- "I don't know how all those people function day to day on earth tbh. "
Well I function just like anyone else. It's not my fault I was born with this shit, I just have to deal with it.
- "I can only try to be empathetic, but can not fully understand as I do not have any of those disorders."
A true statement. Perhaps you could have provided a Sympathetic response then?
- "I think Discord needs more personal preference settings, since it's obviously something that causes a lot of fuss when it changes."
This isn't about personal preference, it's about Accessability.
- "As for your response... With the level of drama and hostility in how you've reacted, it leads me to think that in some cases, perhaps the real issue is in the eyes of the beholder more than with the interface itself."
Or, and hear me out since I know this must be a radical thought for you, maybe there's a term called hostile design where some form of design in the function of a product (whether its software, furniture, public features, or other such things) is meant to cause issues. This is why you see park benches with mini holes in them that make them cooler than other benches, or if you see metal bumps in the middle of a road divider under an overpass. That's hostile design against Homeless populations. I highly doubt this UI update was intentional hostile design, but it is hostile design none the less.
- "As for the various disabilities being cited... Sometimes I think these are 'weaponized' any time someone doesn't like something. Not in all cases obviously, but clearly some."
And this is a perfect example of backhanded politeness. "Clearly some" meaning "What I've seen here". Please understand that when somebody says "I'm having dificulties using this because the spacing is made to a point it's too hard for me to read", it's usually because they're having difficulties using it because they're having a hard time reading things.
- "Thanks though for helping me spot the problem. Sorry but if you're talking about medications and therapists when discussing user interface issues, a moment should be taken to look in the mirror."
I think this is the line where I need to drop being polite. Let me be the first responsible adult in your life to tell you this.
Grow the fuck up.
There are people out there who take medications and work with therapists because that's what they need to function. I'm sorry that you're so blessed to not have to deal with that fact in your everyday life, but some of us have to schedule our lives around "okay I need to take this pill or else my brain doesn't produce Glutamate and I end up having memory issues" or "I can't go to that party because I have Therapy during that time and I need to work on my exposure therapy for my anxiety." That is the reality for the Majority of people.
- "I do sincerely hope that everyone finds a way to cope with this first world problem, as it's obviously got a lot of people triggered, and those who can not find a way, will perhaps seek more therapy or whatever helps them deal with life's challenges."
Hold on, I can fix this for you. You mentioned you can only try to be empathetic, so let me instead give you the sympathetic response:
- "I do sincerely hope everyone can manage to cope with this issue until Discord rectifes it, as it is obviously hindering a sizeable portion of Discord's core userbase. I also hope that those who cannot for whatever reason manage to find suitable alternatives until this site can fix itself as it needs to."
There. That wasn't hard. You don't need to empathize and understand what anyone is going through to be sincerely sympathetic and hope things get better for them. So, in conclusion, let me give you my hope for you, @GenericGamer.
I do sincerely hope you can manage to cope with the fact that your an ablist asshole, as you obviously burn so many bridges without realizing it I'm surprised you still have enough of a social life to be functional, and that if you cannot find a way, perhaps you will seek more therapy, or whatever will help you realize how entirely unhelpful your sheer presence here in this thread has been.
Thank you and I hope you have a wonderful 2020.
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I want to respond to this mostly because I’m a nerd who likes psychology, but also because I feel like there’s an easily remedied misunderstanding here. I get a sense of generalization when I read your posts and that it may not be the big deal you are interpreting it as. I don't think it's specifically disorders or "weaponization" of those disorders.
When it comes to designing anything, there are theories most designers follow that utilize the human subconscious to evoke a particular reaction from others. Our brains are fascinating and process visuals in certain ways for really interesting reasons.
For example, have you ever wondered why dark muted colors with bright contrast are great for horror films? It goes back to our ancestors. It was dangerous to be outside in the dark. Predators could be lurking in the night or you could get lost. Darkness and heavy contrast evokes that same feeling in the modern human despite that threat not being physically present. Similarly, pale or browning colors feel decayed or sickly, which may carry disease and thus should be avoided.
By stimulating these automatic reactions, artists and creators can influence how you feel about certain media. Bright colors and round letters feel happy, diagonal lines feel energetic, etc. There are tons of examples, but I think I’ve already gone on too long lmao.
My point is, design is fairly complicated and does tap into the human psyche a bit. When a theory isn’t utilized the way the designer intended, those of us with slightly more easily agitated brains may notice more quickly and react to it more strongly. For me, my body becomes anxious when I look at the new discord layout because the lines being close together feels claustrophobic. Early man may have used anxiety in a tight space or being cornered by a predator to say "Hey, you need to get out of here!!" Now, my eyes just get a little lost in the tight space of the lines and my chest gets a little heavy. What was once a very powerful and useful survival instinct has been distilled down to a minor and frankly annoying flight reaction.
I can see why you feel the way you do. But I don’t think it’s a matter of people not being able to function daily, or intentionally using their brain’s functionality to get a result. I think it just so happens that a lot of people found Discord’s layout the right amount of comfy for their natural instincts and it was just a coincidence that the change disorient us. Since Discord is a text-heavy UI, the subtleties of typography and design are more noticeable than they might be on other websites.
I don’t know if this changes how you feel about it at all, or if I even made a clear point, but I wanted to give you the chance to learn something in case there was a misunderstanding. And please, I encourage you to do your own research. I enjoy learning and have an education in art theory but I won’t act like I’m right 100% of the time. If you read all this, thank you for your time. The human mind and the design of user interfaces are more intertwined than you might think :)
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Thank you ArtsyAxolotl for approaching this in a very informative way. This leaves me much more reflective on the whole matter.
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Yes! I am also looking for some new features. As I am really stressed to add information about my webpage: Orthoscan.
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