Invisible join in on voice channels
When your in a server and there is a conglict say someone is threatening another but you join the voice channel and then you don't know who to believe and you don't know is telling the truth because they are going to say the other is lying. I think the owner and administration should be able to listen in on the voice channel without it showing he is in there or indicating that someone joins
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If you have ever moderated a public or large community server (or seen it happen when a moderator joins VC), bad actors will move out of VC the moment a mod joins in (guilty conscience and running away). I see it happen regularly. I have a short list of usernames that conveniently leave the chat I join every time. These people are known trouble makers, but if and until I can catch them doing what only a couple people have accused them of, my hands are tied and they are free to continue their crap.
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Nice idea! I suggest it should only be for Community Servers or Partner / Verified Servers. There should be a permission like „Invisible Join“ or „Silent Join“
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This is a disgusting idea.
The types of personalities who support this kind of power over/invasion of others are the same spineless useless pieces of shit that require us to die over and over throughout history for basic freedoms.
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discordbast nobody has a right or freedom to conceal their actions or conversations within the confines of another person's server, especially when those acts are against the rules and endanger the server and its rule-abiding membership. It is not invasive, as the area is already considered public. As for "us" dying "over and over throughout history for basic freedoms", you clearly have never served nor signed your life away, otherwise you would understand that this has nothing to do with rights and freedoms; If it's my server, and I make the rules, and I am expected to properly investigate and report people doing things against my rules (or against Discord ToS or the Law), then you bet your ass I will monitor my VCs in any way I can...you're in my house, expect to be caught if you're doing shady shit in my house.
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I think this is a great idea
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Yea this would be super helpful coming from a guy running a 20k+ player server. Right now I'm forced to log into an Alt Account to do this, and anyone who has at least 2 braincells can go "Oh, that might be a mod, better not be a douche now!", That or when you get a report the guy might now be on good behavior to thwart this. It's not really effective to ensure a quality experience for everyone in my server.
Being able to let my trusted mods have access to this tool allows you to stealthily monitor people you get reports on to ensure your discords rules are being followed in voice chat. If you join a voice channel on a public discord, it should be perfectly fine for one of the moderators to pop in and make sure you're following the rules. If you don't like that idea, stick to DM voice calls or private Discords that aren't subjected to my rules.
Can it be abused as mentioned in some posts above? Yes. But so can bans, roles, and anything else an Admin/Mod has access to. It's up to leadership to ensure that doesn't happen.
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Dude all you people that are saying this is wrong in an invasion of privacy... Talking about having private conversations.... You do realize that you could just call each other directly through DMs or even make a group chat we're talking about a server here there's no reason to have private conversations that are suddenly stopped when somebody joins if you wanted the conversations to be private you can message them directly it's utterly ridiculous, server VCS are not made to be private unless you made the channel private. We're talking about a way to solve a problem here, the fact that people are hurt and verbally abused and then the abuser says the abused are lying and there's never any proof. Half of me gets the feeling that half of these people saying this is wrong and an invasion of privacy are the same ones doing the abusing but who knows.
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Someone commented then deleted in reply to me, but i would like to respond anyway they said
"I want people to join my server in my absence and be comfortable they are not being stalked or spied upon by a creep.
I want 2 girls to join a room without a secret man lurking in the shadows listening to their conversation.
The personalities that ask for this kind of crap are the kind of people that become big government politicians. A pathological need to control others that stems from their own fear of life and insecurities."
Well as i pointed out there are such things as PRIVATE calls. If 2 girls wanted to talk in secret without some "guy" lurking on them they could do so via dm. If they wanted to add people they could do so in a gc. Server VCs are meant to be public for anyone to join. And the issue starts when a girl comes to me, the owner, says shes being harrased, i belive her confront the guy he says "shes lying prove it" ofc i can kick him but what if she is lying. There's no way to know. We as are MODERATERS its our job to police these things. Idk how to better explain that.1 -
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I think my comment got removed sorry. I should be offended, but I've possibly already become too jaded about free speech in tech for that.
I sympathize with the scenario you describe. I'd edited my previous comment to say I would support the feature provided that it could be toggled on/off and that it was fully transparent with a warning: "WARNING: this channel may be being monitored by unknown persons, do not divulge private or sensitive information"
Then people can make a choice about what kind of server (or world) they want to live in.
I think my post was deleted because I mocked people who support censorship and control. I don't regret that because a) it's just humor and b) rule fatigue and big censorship / regulation is a big factor in the mental wellbeing and happiness of a large minority of the population and it should always be open for discussion.
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@discordbast I can agree with this. A toggle and a warning would be perfectly acceptable. Sorry you're comment got removed by the man lol
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Great idea, UP
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This can possibly be illegal in countries with serious data protection & privacy laws. Such as South Korea and others, this moderation concept can easily be abused, even though you have to trust someone for them to be a moderator.
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This is a great idea.
All of you here saying it is a bad idea have no idea what privacy means. There is a reason why you can do direct voice calls with people for privacy in the DMs section. Only someone foolish would have the idea to have a very sensitive private conversation on a discord server's public voice channel. That's like going into a public place like a shopping mall to have a private conversation, it's backwards thinking. It's simple, if you are worried about abuse on smaller scale servers where moderators aren't going to be serious, then that means you have the brain capacity to understand that is not a mature enough environment for you to have personal conversations. Also, that just means servers can do a screening process for deciding the right type of people who won't abuse the power. None of you seem to care about how easy it is for moderators to abuse being able to move, mute, deafen, kick, and ban people from servers, essentially cyber bullying/harassment. So is this where the line is drawn? You can cyber bully/harass someone, but you can't listen in on a conversation in a public voice channel. Alright cool, I'll keep that in reference for in real life so I can bully and harass people so long as I don't stalk them and be creepy. Sorry not sorry you guys need to practice your critical thinking skills.
You kids need to realize that there are prices you pay for everything. To have the positive of being able to kick/ban an unruly member of the server, you also pay the price of having a moderator now and then who abuses it. Same concept here, to gain the positive of being able to stop other forms of harassment/verbal abuse by being able to listen in on public voice channels, you pay the price of losing privacy on public voice channels. Not a bad price to pay, you can not only do 1 on 1 private voice calls, you can also have group calls in DMs. Anyone complaining about not being able to be private on a public voice channel is thinking backwards and lazy. The feature can easily be made to be toggled on/off for the server entirely or for individual voice channels, and also can be made a separate permission so that not all staff on a server necessarily will have the feature. Also someone above mentioned a warning upon joining a public voice channel would make this practical, and I agree. See, at least someone is trying to make it work instead of saying it'd be illegal, even though discord has access to all of this themselves given that if someone was under investigation by authorities they'd be more than happy to expose all of your private information on your discord account. Privacy is an illusion, get over it, we need good moderation otherwise no server will ever be good enough.
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Great idea, love to see it
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