Force disable invisible status in server settings

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  • argonautilus

    Someone wanting to be invisible isn’t always personal or “sneaky.”
    “Online,” even in “do not disturb,” is typically taken by users to mean “present and able to see your communication.” People who are frequently harassed, or simply popular, are more likely to be DMed or pinged if people think their message will be seen immediately. It’s less exhausting and frustrating to stay hidden. People who tend to dip in and out of chats rather than sit down and participate for a few hours at a time may also prefer an “invisible” status to avoid giving people false expectations. Especially in RP servers, it’s not unreasonable for someone to want to quietly catch up without giving a false sense of “presence.”
    Simply asking for this feature sets an uneasy precedent. “If you’re online and in do not disturb, why didn’t you read my message first???” People are allowed to be in a hurry, or too exhausted to do certain activities while wanting to do others, or need or simply want to be in their DMs/other servers without signaling they’re active on Discord. People do not owe you a signal of activity.

    If you’re a mod sending a server-critical message, require users react with a particular emoji upon reading the message. After a certain number of days, DM members who haven’t reacted.

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  • Muse

    @RaZeFeiXX
    Agreed. But do you know how to code such a bot?

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  • Misa

    @onethesigma I agree, having the server owner force-turn-off the invisibility status on their members (or admins, doesn't matter tbh) is just a massive violation and will 100% guaranteed be abused. 

    it sucks having your admins who need to be approachable most of the time appear offline, but to me that just seems like a case where you need to make that clear to your admins before you assign them the role. (and not just straight up enforce an online status). 

     

    Edit: btw being online but setting your status as 'busy' and ignoring someone will alot of the time offend the person being ignored

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  • onethesigma

    @Misa, of course, i handpicked them, talked to them, clearly telling them the rules, and yet i still found (last time i kicked one admin) that is offline but online (how do i know? i'll tell you a secret.. I have a second account that masked as a woman that would also appear offline and randomly say hi to him whenever the admins need some decision)

    Also, i solemnly swear to you, i will not be offended if you ignore me while at busy status. Because, that is what busy means, and i'm aware of the consequences.

    Then again, apparently i've just get going with it nowadays. i got tired of calling out them and now I let my admins roam free talk free while setting status to offline (actually i think they forgot to set it back to online, lol)

    Anyway, have a good day to you all. It's always nice to see people writing something and discussing something. I'll drop by here and now. Oh, and if you happens to play golfstar sometime, just add me as your friend (game ID and server ID at my discord pic) and i can show you my server.

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  • Misa

    @Muse you're just getting pathetic at this point...
    everyone who downvotes you or has a different opinion than you is a 'troll' ok

    lol 'deceitful' 'inessential' , I feel bad for you that you've been ignored by people appearing offline, but I completely understand based on what I've seen from you, why they would do that tbh


    Also nice edit, here's mine:

    someone already suggested the channels being invisible to people appearing offline. maybe you should read the whole thread first

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  • Misa

    @onethesigma

    I don't think it's just been 'copied' from other social media. it's actually a very wanted feature, if you ignore the few control freaks around here

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  • Misa

    you must be offended if you give so much thought about a random person on an online thread...

     

    anyway going back to the actual topic rather than this pathetic butthurt kiddo throwing idiotic personal remarks that he himself started in the first place (which ofcourse he deleted or edited out because let's be honest, it's just plain idiotic)

    personally I like to stay in busy mode due to pings and notifications, but majority of people do actually want the invisibility feature

    calling them 'lurkers' or 'weirdo's' or 'perverts' (as those two kids above were saying) really doesn't apply here, someone having an online status could just aswell not be socializing and just be a weird lurking pervert.

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  • tmalan

    Please allow this.

     

    If a member wants their privacy respected then they can make the choice not to enter a discord server that asks them to go visible.  That simple.

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  • Kruell

    To those people who think privacy should be in the hands of the individual... You are right with the exception of WHOs house you made the choice to walk into. If the house rules say NO invisibility. You either abide by the rules or get out. 

    So in this case. I think the admins should have the right to block invisibility mode on their servers. When a new user joins the server they should be met with a disclaimer that warns them invisibility disable has been activated for this server. They then have to agree or not. No one is forcing you to visit a specific server but if you want to then you have to abide by the server owner's rules or get your own server. Simple as that.

    For existing servers, I can see that being tricky. But again... it kind of falls into the realm who owns the server. Perhaps that feature should only be allowed to be turned on or off once every 30 days with a 4-day warning to all users the server will be enacting this policy 4 days from date X. That gives them time to clean up or save their stuff if they decide they do not want to be on the server anymore. 

     

    I am not saying activate this for public servers, in fact, I don't think it should be an option for a public server. But for private servers like mine then HELL YES. If you are in my house I want to know you are in my house.

     

    Now maybe there can be specific roles assigned that can see invisible players. Maybe only admins can see invisible players. But in any case. The person who is responsible for the server, the person who is going to get their server deactivated should it be abused in a way that requires the server to be removed from discord... That person should have the full right to know who is on their server at ALL times.

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  • facepalmdodger

    Honestly, they need to add a feature that allows the server to turn it on or off. It notifies every member when they enter the channel, and they have the right to leave at any point. As both sides have very valid points. However if you dont want to be in a server where you cant be invisible, but others do want to stay, it is a choice. This thread isnt a debate its an argument. Everyone has decided to get pissed and annoyed at everyone. Maybe lets get to the problem at hand which is differing opinions, that after seeing all this wont change via this. That is why they need to allow it, however also let it be publicly known. You cant decide to say no because half say yes and half say no, you make a compromise.

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  • kyoko

    No one cares about your RP servers! Your weird erp only makes a small userbase of discord. The rest of discord have no problem with it and wouldn't want it removed. Discord has no time to add features that benefit a minority when the majority want it back

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  • Muse

    Just ignore Misa. She's got more spine than wits, and there's nothing you can do with that.

    As for "you'll end up turning away a huge amount of the userbase", it's interesting when people without a business degree try and preach how the loss of a redundant feature will lose somebody a userbase.

    People don't come to Discord for the Invisible status. As the other poster said, I suggest you finish your schooling if strawman arguments are all you can offer. You're entitled to your opinion, but I wish the arguments were more accurate.

    The people who disagree with this idea aren't dumb; those making irrational, left-field objections...probably are.

    Also, obsessively and systematically downvoting every message I make before your rebuttals just takes the "dumb" to the next level.

    Even if you have the "jolly good proper Doctorate education in SOSMART Sciences", doesn't mean your justifications for malignant behavior are any less dumb. An idiot with three Doctorates is just an Idiot with three Doctorates, no matter how you dress him/her.

    Object if you will, just try and make an objection that is based on actual logistics, rather than parroting the same weak, vague, senseless objections.

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  • onethesigma

    Now now, @misa, I know that online community is harsh. And yes, I have actually kicked out some members due to be verbally abusive or perverts, but I did not know if the feature comes from majority actually wanted it. Please kindly inform me where do I can find the original discussion about that feature. Is it from the discord official forum?

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  • onethesigma

    @muse, your vocabulary is awesome. Thanks for the new words and the meaning of it

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  • tmalan

    @Twy.  Those are all valid points but I still don't see why this is an issue if server visibility is an optional feature.  It should also notify you of this before entering the server to give you an option to leave.

     

    Don't want to be seen?  Don't go in that server.

    Want a server like the one you were in to be invisible?  Make a new server with the setting set to invisible.

    I'm sure if the majority of members of a server felt strongly to have it invisible they could pressure the admin to disable the feature.

    I still don't think there is anything wrong with the option.  Options give us choices to meet our specific needs.

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  • Cortex

    I still haven't seen anyone explain how being invisible is beneficial or useful at all.

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  • Guiggr

    Does anyone knows any bot that could do that? Or like prohibit messages from invisible people?

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  • Cortex

    Sever owners have the right to know who's in their server or not. Of you don't like the fact that the invisibility option is disabled on a server, you can leave it.

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  • This discussion was stupid. Why would anyone come up with this idea?

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  • Kiljaeden

    It should be a server by server function and there is no reason for it not to be.
    Change my mind.

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  • Ares

    Listen most of us don't want to be stalked and would like to know if someone is possibly going to join our channel. Its like this guy is offline but then I enter a game and boom he suddenly joins the game so he obviously watches people which means he probably does so on discord as well. Also add a feature to disable calls and messages or just block the guy if you don't want him to bother you. I think you should make status server bound so you can have different status on each server. Then you can give admin who now OWN the server to make rules and enforce them. This is actually a widely asked for feature even though it might not appear so on here.

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  • Kiljaeden

    The level of dumb in this thread is quite impressive.
    Nobody is taking your freedoms or choices away. I want to give you the choice to join my server or not based on if you can be a functioning human being and not hide like a weirdo.
    You can spy on people in millions of other servers just not mine.
    If you're struggling to understand this please either continue to finish your school education or perhaps revisit it if you've left already.

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  • Levi  Ackerman

    It would be a useful tool to have for server owners but I can also understand why people would want privacy maybe they could implement it in a way server owners can turn on a that setting that makes it so you can't be invisible in the server but maybe you could have a option to give people access to invisible if they have a reason I understand this night not work for some of the bigger servers but it could be a good thing to look at

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  • Arkanite

    ay kyoko, 99% of the rp that takes place on discord ain't erp, bud. so how about you calm down.

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  • Kiljaeden

    @Saluki Rubbish. If you are avoiding someone then deal with that issue or block them. Servers are usually communities and to be part of a community means interaction.
    If you want to be part of a community but are busy and don't want to be disturbed then use the functions available to you.
    Stop using your voyeurism fetish to pretend your privacy is being violated.

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  • Muse

    Misa's bad arguments are bait, folks. Everything they post is most likely going to be as full of holes as Swiss cheese used as a target at a gun range - increasingly so, the more we give them ammo by exposing what disgusts and disappoints us - but I strongly advise that we don't feed the trolls, and follow Discord's rules by keeping feedback related to how to improve upon the suggestions posted by users.

    They're here to get their 'supply', so if we starve them, they'll go find other people to bait, twirly moustache, monocle and glass of wine-colored drink and all.

    Thank you to everyone else who didn't try to make my feedback post into their own personal troll lair.

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  • Muse

    The issue was always people feigning being offline when they're actually online. It's deceitful. It's optional. It's inessential. It isn't about privacy, it never was.

    When the next troll pops up, having a laugh by playing dumb at this having anything to do with "privacy" (and they send their flying monkeys to downvote all opposing views), just refer back to this message.

     

     

    Hmm, maybe the solution is to equip servers with a function that makes all channels/categories invisible to anyone who is in Invisible Mode. Maybe common sense will sink in then! After all, if they need "privacy", they won't have any need to be scanning through people's posts in the server, right? ;)

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  • Muse

    Narc Alert!

    • Put Downs
    • Refers to "education" out of context
    • Antisocial behavior
    • Deliberately demeaning behavior
    • Pervasive need to dominate.
    • Delusions of grandeur.
    • Projects ignorance onto others.
    • Spews vitriol when mirrored.
    • "Word salad" arguments
    • Addicted to insulting speech.
    • Argues just to argue.
    • Can't leave any differing views alone.
    • More comments than anyone else.
    • Not one original thought to share.
    • Every "point" accompanied by insults.
    • Attacks everyone in Comments
    • Sees no merits to disagreements.
    • Will probably keep doing all the above.

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  • Kiljaeden

    Overly obsessive... Nice :D I'll assume that you're one of the weird creepers that can't handle your social life then.

    I have some people in my server that go invisible. They get involved in conversations. They ask questions.
    One of them asked a question yesterday. When someone asks a question, I have a duty to try and answer it. Sometimes that takes time out of what I'm doing.
    This has happened a number of times and a conversation requires input from both parties.
    If a person is online then I can get involved and stay there and get the problem resolved.
    Not knowing if the person has asked and run leaves me not knowing either way if I'm wasting my time waiting for the input from them.
    Having to ask them about the reason for their status can be confrontational.
    If the server you join doesn't allow invisible status, we all know where we stand, including you.
    Grow up and sort out your social issues please. If you have social anxiety, use DND and I won't include you or expect any input from you.
    It's very simple.

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  • Kiljaeden

    :D Sentences start with capital letters oh educated one.
    Stop being so precious, you don't have to join my server. Go be invisible somewhere else.
    Freedom of choice

    Roles and permissions are not the issue here.

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