Check IP function: i check ip from user connect to my sever

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  • Torbjörn

    No? IP addresses are never exposed to anyone besides Discord employees. However, bans should ban by IP. Source: https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/848268667343306752?s=20

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  • Nico

    Vola, I appreciate your ambition and care but, this is a very bad idea, it gives you access to not only control a person's computer, but no the owner's credentials...You should not have access to it. 

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  • Ecliptica

    That's completely untrue. Every website you visit knows your IP address. Knowing that address certainly doesn't automatically give access to any computers at that address.

    I'd fully support Discord server admins having access to IPs, and being able to ban IP ranges to fight back against things like botnets. My server was recently hit by a massive raid (1000+ bots) and there was nothing we could do other than manually ban them, disable the invite link and complain to the Discord staff.

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  • Owen Rempe

    Ecliptica, IP’s don’t give you the complete control over someone’s device, but giving someone’s IP is very dangerous. From a IP someone can easily found out were you live, From that they can found out you r name your phone # and other info. That’s why your not allowed to have someone’s IP. But if your wondering how to IP ban someone you can do that through a bot called Alt Definer, You can risk making your own bot but you’ll most likely get highly fined or go to jail (at least if not in top of everything get banned from Discord.) this is because the bot has a terms and conditions that you agree to so that the bot can store the user IP and use it for you to IP ban, If you made your own bot you would have to do the same. Which requires a lot of work.

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  • Owen Rempe

    [Really Wanted]

    Although all of this, I really think discord could make something like ID but instead it’s the same ID for all of there alts. I also think they could make a IP ban, and a view Alts, that would truly make discord a lot batter.

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Owen, do you know anything about IPs? Logging IPs is nowhere near being illegal and sending you to jail. It also takes some effort to get info from a person if an IP address is all what you got. There are no fines or going to jail just for logging IPs. Basically every website you visit does it, that includes discord, google, youtube etc......

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  • mccull415

    applebee, you do realize that you have agreed to terms and conditions to all these sites you visit? Every time there is a popup about a sites cookies/privacy policy, they have a document that grants them the right to that information if you visit the site. It's not legal to make an IP scraper without giving users a notice of, however, its not usually enforced. If you want, I can cite certain documents amended by governments and agencies against such acts.

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Here’s sources cited that completely go against what you are saying. https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/28603/how-to-satisfy-gdprs-consent-requirement-for-ip-logging

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  • Permanently deleted user

    IP addresses aren’t personal data, so they don’t fall under that category.

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  • mccull415

    IP addresses are personal info read this ->
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.termsfeed.com/blog/gdpr-log-data/amp/

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  • mccull415

    Heres another source that says that IP’s should be treated as personal info. 

    https://eugdprcompliant.com/personal-data/

    “ A website provider has a record of the web pages accessed by a dynamic IP address (but no other data that would lead to the identification of the person). If the two pieces information would be combined, the website provider could find the identity of the person behind a certain dynamic IP address. However, the chances of this happening are small, as the ISP has to meet certain legal obligations before it can hand the data to a website provider. The conclusion is, all IP addresses should be treated as personal data, in order to be GDPR compliant.“

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  • NotAub ا

    IPs are public info

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  • poolkill

    I’m a bit late ngl but let me sum up what an IP is basically like. So an IP is kinda like your home address but like an online version it is where you normally located people can search your ip and find out where the exact spot is if that makes sense

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  • MichinMigugin

    There is a difference though, no ONE owns their IP. It is owned by you internet service provider and even then, they may not even own it. Very few people have a dedicated IP address, which is one that never changes. If you do, you know you do because you pay for it. In that case, you have some additional protections that come with it. For the normal user, you IP address may be you online address, but its like a rental. The owner has the control and in all that paperwork you did not read when you got your internet and phone state this very information. Regardless of what country or city or world you live on. As for getting that info from discord, its easy.. make a bot for your server. Host that bot on your own computer, give that bot a feature that the user wants to interact with. When they do, your computer will get the user ID and information of that user. I will not go into details, but you can get a lot of information, as well as get into a lot of trouble if you don't set the bot up or advertise its collection of such info in your server. Be careful. And for everyone else, if you see a server with a private bot, you may want to look around to see if they posted about what they are collecting with it.

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  • thor

    I'm going to be honest here, I've used ip to use this bot called Slotbot against.  Basically, you can have a ~shoot or ~attack, and it takes your virtual money away. I've used it since the past 2 weeks after my friend showed me how to do it, because even though i left the main server, slothub, there are still users there that are attacking me! I was very confused and searched it up, and then I found out about ip addresses. My friend then showed me a bot that gets ip addresses, so I went back to the server, and got the people that were shooting me for the past 4 days ip addresses. I must say, after a 2 days of constant spamming, it got boring, so I went afk for a couple of days. When i went back, I literally had 100 notifications from even more users that spammed slotbot on me! I want to know, is grabbing ip's illegal, and how can I make sure that other people are not able to get my ip address on discord anymore, because its getting bad. My friends are mad, his friends are mad, just because he thought it was funny to literally nuke every kid that joins the server. He thinks noobs are easy to pick on. (SIKE BRO U GOT NUKED TOO)

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  • ghhiuu

    I think the only good way to hide your ip is by using a VPN.

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  • ghhiuu

    poolkill,

     

    1. an ip is not like your home adress and most ip's are konstantly changing

    2. they can't exactly locate you, it is verry inacurate. So they only know like your country and your region.

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  • MichinMigugin

    Not saying they can find you. You are correct, IP can be used to find maybe city or in large cities, maybe a district. However, in the context used. It is a 100% pinpoint address to your computer, unless you do something to offset it. Such as VPN and many other ways.

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  • Enjoyer

    Lukas terms and conditions aren't above the law. If the law doesn't state that you can be fined and jailed for it then you won't be. A lot of the time dumb policies like these are nomically invalid or even illegal, and should be ignored

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  • 𝔻𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠𝕣

    wow, its 2020 and only the only person here that has a any idea what an ip address is and how it works is ghhiuu

    its like being in a room full of people who all know everything

     

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  • Anon Shadow

    Discord is designed in a way that its users are secure. Violating this in terms of revealing a user's IP address can be used to find their home address. Someone could launch a DDOS attack on them. An IP address could be a gateway to their device itself. Discord would never violate the privacy and security of it's users.

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    Not saying they can find you. You are correct, IP can be used to find maybe city or in large cities, maybe a district. However, in the context used. It is a 100% pinpoint address to your computer, unless you do something to offset it. Such as VPN and many other ways.

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    In this sense, you would only have the VPN IP address in attempt to receive the user's. Discord bans work by IP and knowing someone's ip to see if they're an alt defeats the purpose of a discord bad. Discord and it's employees are the only ones that should know a user's IP address if required, and if a server owner/staff member feels like it's necessary to receive it, they should just contact discord.
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  • Anon Shadow

    Yes IP addresses could be considered public, as they are the token (or ID) for their internet connection, but at this point, with the possibility of a privacy breach just by someone knowing it is too much of a risk. A discord moderator shared me a website claiming to be a program they were working on, though they only sent it to me because it was an IP logger because they thought I was an alt account. They knew my full name, showed me a photo of my drivers licence, and my address. 

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  • Sour

    You guys make my brain hurt.

    1st an IP Address is public information. It's like a telephone number and every time you dial a webpage you send that "telephone number" to them. (Obviously there are some people better off without that "telephone number" else you may receive spam calls [DDoS attacks or attempts, Security breach attempts etc, use that mentality when browsing and chances are you will be fine])

    2nd An IP address can be used to roughly Geo-locate someone. This is factual as many people don't have their IP address change frequently and there for sites that use Geo-locating will retain that information. (think GPS and Google Maps)

    3rd Discord does have access to your IP address unless you never made contact with discord from your default connection (VPN, VPS, Dedicated Remote Host etc)

    4th What the gentleman who opened this thread is requesting a way to stop troll accounts. A Ban from the server is an IP ban, but the issue at hand is it is easy enough to run an emulator or VM and connect to a VPN through those. Unfortunately since There is no way to block the IP address ranges of all of the VPNs in use you will just have to keep combating them.

    5th The request he has made he would find out very quickly would not bear fruit due to each of the accounts being on a different IP address due to a VPN.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but those are the facts.

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  • 'BlackWidowMovie0

    I'd fully support server admins getting access to IPs. HOWEVER, I'd say only admins that are admins for large servers get this permission. 10,000+, maybe.

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  • tigger_the_bullfrog

    I have to disagree with you BlackWidowMovie0. This suggestion seems to be based on two assumptions:

    1. Server admins are inherently secure in their practices.
    2. Server admins are not inherently malicious. 

    Accounts can get hacked into, computers can get hacked into, and admins can become disgruntled and do stupid things. Even the admin with the worlds greatest intentions, might have virtually no concept of cybersecurity, resulting in their account being compromised and all those IP addresses suddenly fall into a seasoned hackers hands. If they don't have to know the IP to ban by IP, then there is no good reason to give them access to the IP's. 

    To be honest though, if someone is using a commercial VPN, their IP is probably whitelisted and excluded from bans. Reason being, if you start banning all the IP's in a VPN providers ranges, then you are banning people that had nothing to do with the event from who knows what country. And in some areas, everyone's public IP shows up the same because they are pumping through some small ISP in a rural area that doesn't have the standard ISP options. These might also be whitelisted. Someone connecting through a University network could get the entire campus banned. 

    Now, whether or not discord is taking this into consideration, I don't know, but it is likely. And this is another reason not to give admins access to the IP's. If an admin doesn't understand these nuances, they might start kicking people that have done nothing wrong, simply because they have the same IP. 

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  • 'BlackWidowMovie0

    That assumes that all admins are malicious in intent, when very few actually are. I would also propose that admins that get this tool are only for huge servers, 10000+ members, due to their popularity. They would also get encrypted software to prevent hacking and the like.

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  • Bong sucker

    @mccull415 that link doesnt prove anything, of course IPs should be treated as personal information, but its not, its public. Plus they wouldnt need to tell you it should be treated as personal information if it was personal information, thats like telling an adult to not give a stranger his adress and bank details.

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  • KRunkieZ

    No!!! Someone called WEBxoigamer DMed me and asked which country I am. He asked if I'm from Madagascar or Afganistan. I said no for both (truth). He tracked me and told me real country name. I asked if he was a hacker. He said no.
    the messages:

    Hi
     
    Are you Afghanistan
     
    Hello
     
    ???
     

    No
     

    K
     
    Are you Madagascar
    ???
    Or any other

    no?
    May 22, 2021

    Then
    Which country
    Oh you are sri lanka
    Just got your ip
    Au revoir!!
    May 23, 2021

    Yeah

    No way how!?
    Where'd you get me from?

    You speak french?
    Are you a hacker?

    How do you know I am a hacker
    I speak french English Hindi Spanish and italian
    I tracked you
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  • marq_andrew

    KRunkieZ This isn't a conversation copied from Discord.

    A conversation between a user and another user is intermediated by Discord. There is no direct peer to peer contact and therefor no access to each other's IP address unless Discord exposes it.

    A person running a https (web) server can send a link to it in a Discord message. If another person clicked on that link, it would send a https request from that user's web client (not from Discord) to that person's server which would be a direct connection in which their IP address would be exposed (as it is in ANY connection you make to the internet, even email).

    You can't tell the exact physical location of a person from their IP address. You can only tell the location of their ISP. If they are using a VPN, you can only tell the location of the VPN server that they are going through.

    There are plenty of web sites that will show you the basic information exposed whenever you access the internet e.g. https://www.iplocation.net.

    Many web sites advertising VPNs also display the information exposed in the https headers and available from your public IP, including a precise attitude and longitude in order to try to scare you into paying for a VPN service but if you look at that information carefully, you will see that it isn't precise and only relates to your ISP, not you.

    Your IP address is ALWAYS exposed. If it wasn't, there would be no way to send information back to you. (You can use a VPN or the Onion browser to relay traffic between yourself and the server you are contacting in order to hide that information.) Web browsers also send other information such as the type of computer you are using and the version of the web client.

    In a way, Discord acts as a VPN. "Direct" messages between you and another person aren't direct. They go through Discord and so the only way you can access the other person's IP is if Discord exposed it. As far as I can see, the Discord APIs (used by bots) don't.

    If a "direct" message was a direct IP to IP connection, you couldn't get or send direct messages if you or the other person were offline and you couldn't get direct messages to more than one client, for example to Discord on your laptop and Discord on your phone. 

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